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This Saturday (Apr 16) at Coachella, Danny Elfman will evangelize a live spectacle that he surmises will "either become downwards afterward as the worst thought I ever had, or it'll be really fun."

For a musician every bit seasoned and historic every bit Elfman, he's non playing it safe at 68. Not simply did the pandemic (and the sorry state of America) fuel 2021'due south Large Mess, his get-go album in 37 years, but he'due south currently in the midst of "certainly the busiest period of my adult life." Within the last month, he'southward seen two of his concertos make their world premieres, and immediately after his Coachella weekend two gig wraps, he's hightailing information technology out of the desert to make the U.S. premiere of his Percussion Concerto the very next day. "I wouldn't wish it on anybody," Elfman drolly offers. "Only it'due south that edge of disaster that I really dear."

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While Hans Zimmer's functioning at Coachella 2017 provides some precedent, Elfman's upcoming concert is some other first for him and the festival. Divided into thirds, information technology volition mix his beloved picture scores (such equally Edward Scissorhands, The Nightmare Before Christmas andSpider-Homo, to name a few) with wickedly funny fabric from his defunct band Oingo Boingo as well as new songs from Big Mess, an anthology he says showcases "the two sides of me that are always fighting for space."

Taking a breather from Coachella preparations, Danny Elfman gamely answered 20 questions for Billboard about everything from his stage fright to our dystopian reality to whether he'd e'er reprise the role of Satan if that long-rumored Forbidden Zone sequel ever sees the light of the Sixth Dimension.

ane. Yous were originally slated to play Coachella in 2020, which was pushed to 2022 for obvious reasons. You're not the typical Coachella performer – did yous have any reservations about taking the gig?

Many. I didn't want to exercise a reunion concert [of Oingo Boingo]. I got this matter about reunions. They asked me if I wanted to exercise a motion picture concert like Hans Zimmer did and I went out there and looked at the stage and I said, "I don't experience comfy doing that because it only means a lot of accentuated tracks. Merely what if it was a mix, like a mashup, with a rock ring?" That got me all excited and I said yes. And since that fourth dimension I've washed an album, and then it volition be thirds: Revamped one-time music, new music and film music. It's an even wackier show.

2. Before yous even decided to do the Big Mess anthology, you started writing "Sorry" and "Happy" for Coachella. Why was it of import for you to exercise new music?

For me, there's nothing interesting virtually "here'south my by." It'due south fun to practice orchestra concerts; For case, when I practice the [Tim] Burton shows, the challenge of that is a hundred musicians are learning this matter from scratch, and information technology'south really a bitch to put that show together. The whole thing about performing is the thrill of it being on the edge of disaster. All proficient theater is. When I see theater, what makes it so exciting is that the propensity for failure is always there. With the Elfman/Burton shows, the propensity for disaster is ever looming, because it'due south all live.

With this, without doing something new, it merely didn't have the thrill for me. I have no idea how it will work. There's no warm-upwardly shows. It'll either go downwardly afterwards as the worst idea I ever had or information technology'll exist actually fun. It feels similar being on a high wire and saying, "I'k going without the net today."

3. So you lot wrote two new songs, but how quickly did it snowball into the two-role Big Mess anthology?

Information technology took a while. "Sorry" I'd written the yr earlier as a concept slice for a festival in Tasmania called Dark Mofo. Information technology was an instrumental piece, I wasn't singing on it, but it was for a rock band or punk band, a sleeping accommodation orchestra and female singers; I picked the idea of chamber punk. When I started writing in 2020, I withal had in my head and my fingers electric guitar and this concept of driving strings and a rock ring. I went up north with my married woman and son and canis familiaris and I started working on an orchestral symphonic commission, but I knew information technology was going to cancel. There was that point in April [2020] where things hadn't canceled but everybody knew everything was going to cancel. It took the wind out of my sails. I had so much frustration and when I started putting lyrics to "Lamentable," I realized I had so much venom in me, so I started writing. It was like Pandora's box. Once I opened information technology, I couldn't close it. The reason I stopped at eighteen songs is because my manager Laura [Engel] and myself had to put an arbitrary deadline on it. In 37 years, I haven't done anything without a deadline. I'd withal be working on Pee-Wee's Large Adventure trying to get it right.

4. How did you dissever information technology into ii parts?

The weirdest role [of writing the album] was that it was almost equal, the two sides of me that are always fighting for infinite. In all these years of doing film, I could do a big, aggressive film, and a very small, intimate film. A very romantic picture show or a very crazy comedy. And they both get their turns. Ane side definitely likes to be happy, and the other side is definitely total of absurdity. And the songs were coming out in pairs. It was weird. When I had viii out of 18, I told Laura, "This is looking similar two different albums. I have two groups of four songs that have naught to do with each other." In film composing, (those sides) settle down, but when I started writing songs, it was back to that one-time battle. Which was something I experienced back in the old days with Boingo, which was quite maddening really.

5. When you lot said y'all had "venom" earlier, what was that toward? The world? But everything going on?

It was definitely the world and specifically America. It really felt like George Orwell: The concept of two plus 2 equals five was a reality in America. I couldn't believe it. You could make any reality y'all want just by proverb it and people would believe it. It's similar, ii plus two isn't five, and so y'all get millions of people going, "No, it is. Big Brother says it is." I never idea I'd see that in my lifetime. I'thousand a child of the '60s and then I was around for the protests of the Vietnam State of war. It was nothing like it is today with honestly feeling similar fascism is very likely to get a foothold in America and watching what I felt was this sacred pact of democracy aging. And now Putin is letting loose on his ain. To me, Trump and Putin are 2 sides of the aforementioned coin. They're "we make our reality and we accept a giant media organization behind u.s. to amplify that reality. If there'south a narrative, just make an contrary narrative." Yous go, "That can't perchance work," only information technology did. I was really frustrated. I was looking at the real possibility of taking my family unit and moving to another state for the first time in my life. I had never felt that before. I was (concerned) it would get a Putin-style commonwealth. Add together to that a pandemic and quarantine.

vi. Obviously you've remained prolific over the years, merely why did you become and then long without writing music that wasn't commissioned? Was it just a lack of time?

I think it was too feeling the demand to. I didn't feel a compulsion or need to perform. I always had stage fright. As a performer, it was a love-hate relationship. I loved it when I was out there and it was working, but I had tremendous anxiety about information technology. Even in 25 years of performing I couldn't work through it. So when I stopped performing in '95, people would go, "It's Halloween, don't yous miss performing?" I would go "no, it feels so practiced. I'm not anxiety-ridden and wound up." I don't have that matter that virtually lifelong performers have, that need to perform.

vii. Practise you lot have that anxiety for Coachella?

I'grand excited. Of grade I'm nervous. Even when I do Nightmare Before Christmas, and I've done information technology like 25 times, I'grand actually nervous earlier. But I'm excited about Coachella because I feel like annihilation could happen. The whole matter could blow up. It'southward a moment that one way or another volition exist a defining moment for me.

8. Writing the Large Mess songs, did your process differ without plot or characters from a movie to guide yous?

Totally. Merely that'south the same equally when I'1000 doing symphonic commissions. Being without plot and picture at starting time was terrifying when I started doing orchestral [work]. But I needed to push myself out of my comfort zone. My kickoff couple ones were terrifying. Merely when I was writing Large Mess it was different. I was really driven. Probably because of quarantine I was writing more first-person things I was feeling rather than third person, which is what I was used to in Oingo Boingo. Most songs I wrote [in Oingo Boingo] I was writing from a point of view of a character. Some characters were despicable, some were ridiculous. For the first time I found myself writing nigh death and religion. I was like, "What the f–m am I doing?" Information technology was an unconscious flow. And there was always the backdoor of the songs I felt were too personal, I could just jettison them and withal release an album. I had enough material. But in the end I decided I didn't intendance. Only put 'em all out there.

9. Big Mess includes a new version of Oingo Boingo'south "Insects." Why did y'all decide to revisit that particular rail?

I was looking at what Oingo Boingo songs I might want to revamp for Coachella, and because of the situation, it became a political song. I was thinking, "What are today'due south insects?" I remember of Washington. Just look at the Congress. To me information technology'due south a hive of bloodsucking insects.

10. You mentioned having a thing about reunions earlier. And then y'all're not game for a potential Oingo Boingo reunion?

More often than not speaking, bands that die should stay dead. It's like zombies: stay in the ground. Obviously there are gonna be reunions that take worked out fine, just commonly I experience the reason a band is doing a reunion is purely financial. I couldn't see myself doing a whole set of Oingo Boingo material. There's one-half a dozen songs [I would do] only I can't get up there and do a 20-minute set. I don't even heed to my old stuff. Until I did this 25th anniversary box gear up with Tim Burton [Danny Elfman & Tim Burton 25th Anniversary Music Box], I never listened to a single score I've written for him until I put that together. I do information technology, I record it and I motion on. I don't proceed paraphernalia. I don't take anything. I'm weird that manner. But incorporating some of that into some other show, that fabricated sense. And so it'south a present, by, future retrospective of my life.

11. Have you been to Coachella earlier?

Yeah, that's what got me excited. My director Laura had been trying to get me in that location for years, and finally in 2019 she goes, "Paul [Tollett, Coachella co-founder] will fly us out there in a helicopter, just take a look and see what information technology's like." He'd been calling Laura almost doing something for shut to 15 years. It goes back. So I took a chopper out and I couldn't believe the huge advance in visual engineering science since the last fourth dimension I'd been to an outdoor festival. I expected the audio would be cracking, but the visual side was stunning. I watched the Janelle Monae evidence and was like, "wow, this is bully." Saw Kittenish Gambino and a couple other shows and information technology got me excited. So I came up with an thought, pitched it afterward that evening to Paul and he was similar, "Yes, that'southward it, let'south do it."

12. The Big Mess vinyl includes some different versions of songs with collaborators not on the regular album, like Blixa Bargeld from Einstürzende Neubauten. Volition we see any special guests during your set?

No. It's a tight 60-minute set and the fact that we're jamming all this movie music into a rock north' ringlet fix already, it'southward incredibly difficult. I'one thousand not expecting Blixa to show up from Germany or Trent [Reznor] to suddenly wing in. It's not gonna happen. I got my hands full.

13. A sequel to the 1980 cult classic Forbidden Zone has been talked almost for years. Is there whatever motility in that location?

It'southward totally non upward to me, that'southward my blood brother's thing [Richard Elfman]. If he pulls it together and does it, yeah, of class I'll aid out. But Forbidden Zone is his baby.

14. Would you reprise the role of Satan?

Well, I don't know. Who knows? [laughs] Maybe.

15. Is there a managing director you haven't worked with who you'd like to?

Are you kidding? Yes, but I'm not gonna list them out of respect for the composers they work with. And I don't want to show my seething jealousy any more than than it already exists. There are directors I'd practically kill for. If a composer all of a sudden dies of a horrible accident, I don't want people to think "Oh my God, Danny said he'd kill for that. We better look at where he was that night." I'd almost kill for it — emphasize almost.

16. You've been Oscar nominated four times. Is that something you lot would care about winning finally?

I'thousand and so uninvested in awards. I always have been. Years agone when I won a Grammy I didn't fifty-fifty know I'd won it, somebody had to call me. Information technology'due south an honor to get nominated for something, I'm happy to go some recognition, but to say who won is an absurdity. Information technology's a contest between apples and oranges. To be nominated or noticed is a not bad moment. At that place are certain things I don't need: In the same way I didn't demand to be on stage, I don't need awards. I've never kept an award. My mother, who is gone now, every honour I'd gotten in my life ended up at her place.

I have a theory. In one case you lot start believing in that, information technology f–ks up your piece of work. It'south great to get stuff, but you tin't believe in it. If you believe you deserve that, you want it and you're trying to become it, information technology compromises what you do. You lot tin't believe in it. I meet Academy Awards and Grammys as like a religion. I don't exercise that organized religion, merely I don't put it down. The Academy does great things for picture and recognizes minor films that would otherwise not take a take chances.

17. While preparing for this and looking back on old motion picture scores, is in that location anything where you thought, "I barely remember this"?

Everything. [laughs] I was playing these scores and going, "Oh my God, all I remember is the main title slice." Every other cue was like, "Really? I did that?" It was strange. I was listening to Pee-Wee and Beetlejuice and going, "Those are so archaic compared to where I am now." On the other mitt, that's not a bad matter. Perchance there'southward a lesson in that location too. It was a curious matter. Listening to my erstwhile songs for Coachella, I hadn't heard Oingo Boingo songs since '95. I started going onto Spotify and listening to tracks. Honestly, I didn't remember half of them. It was a very strange experience.

eighteen. And then yous're listening to your ain ring on Spotify. You lot don't have records effectually the business firm?

No. I got aught. I'm sure some psychiatrist would say I almost compulsively don't proceed things. Most people would retrieve information technology'due south kind of weird.

19. In terms of preparing for Coachella, was information technology a relief to have that actress time in lockdown?

I took up a lot of that time with Big Mess. I had to hustle and the fact that so many things ended up dorsum-to-back is crazy synchronicity. I just returned from ii world premiere concertos that were supposed to be a year apart and concluded up a week autonomously; they got rescheduled considering of COVID. I wouldn't wish it on everyone. I don't know how many people have the experience of 2 world premiere symphony concertos within 30 days of Coachella. And from my 2d [weekend] of Coachella, I leave directly to make wearing apparel rehearsal for the American premiere of my Percussion Concerto that plays the day after. It's f–rex crazy. That'southward as much contrast as I can handle in my life — any more and my head will explode.

20. Is there anything else yous'd like to add?

Information technology's just so much, merely it's a very exciting time out of the bluish. These are the years where I'm supposed to be taking information technology easy and resting on my honour. I'chiliad not supposed to be having the heaviest year of my life, merely it is. But so much of it is so far exterior of my comfort zone that information technology's just where I desire to be. One time you relax, that'due south it, it's f–rex over. You proceed earning a living getting hired for the same work, but it'southward over.

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